Jurassic Park 1993: Spielberg Finds a Way


With a plot centered around hungry dinosaurs on the loose due to a disabled security system, and the likable lead characters–including two young children– in mortal danger, the original Jurassic Park promised to be a hit.

But the 1993 film, directed by Steven Spielberg, had more than a strong plot going for it… as well as a few challenges. 

In this T-Rex-sized extended episode, Ashley and Candy take a deep dive into the movie that started the billion-dollar Jurassic Park franchise.

What was the real-life science that inspired the story? How did Spielberg juggle directing both Jurassic Park and another award-winning film at roughly the same time? How did the special effects team break ground with their use of both CGI and animatronics to create the film’s dinosaur visuals? Why exactly does Ian Malcolm have an open shirt when it’s clearly his leg that is injured? 

Listen in as we discuss these questions and so much more!

Show Notes for Episode 41!

JP Poster (Good Housekeeping)

Ian Malcolm (Jeff Goldblum), John Hammond (Richard Attenborough), Ellie Sattler (Laura Dern), & Alan Grant (Sam Neill) (Vanity Fair)

Ian Malcolm in JP; London Statue (USA Today)






















Book Ashley read from and referenced: “Jurassic Park: The Ultimate Visual History”


Top: Jurassic Park Ride/Bottom New Jurassic World Ride
Original Soundtrack
Crazy Nate!

Very cute low budget “remake” (and some excellent puppets!)

Skeleton Collapse – Ending of Bringing Up Baby (SPOILER)

Westworld Trailer (Written & Directed by Michael Crichton)

(Grant listening to Ian’s belly)

Jaws Part 2: Alcoholism, Script Rewrites, and the Lady in the Dunes


CW: Adult themes/descriptions of violence

Three weeks before the filming of “Jaws” was scheduled to start, Steven Spielberg still had no working script. Desperate, he asked his friend, writer Carl Gottlieb, to “eviscerate it.” And that’s exactly what Carl did, desperately writing most nights to stay ahead of the next day’s filming.  

This Part 2 episode delves into the many screen rewrites, character changes, and plot shifts that occurred throughout the filming of “Jaws.” 

From Quint’s USS Indianapolis monologue that had to be reshot due to Robert Shaw’s drunkenness, to the situation that saved a main character’s life, Candy and Ashley discuss these and many other behind-the-scenes stories. The two also touch on the famous “Lady in the Dunes” cold case speculated by Joe Hill– writer and son of Stephen King– to have a “Jaws” connection. 

Show Notes for Episode 40!

Please see Ep 39 for a full list of Sources & Images

Bonus Content:

Thanks to listener Robyn for sending us this news item!


The famous monologue
History of the Dolly Zoom (shot described by Ashley, but misidentified as being in “Psycho,” not “Vertigo”

Shark Week 2022 Promo!

Sharknado Trailer
Production Company of Bryan Singer

Bad Hat Harry Productions is an American film and television production company founded in 1994 by director Bryan Singer. It has produced such films as The Usual Suspects and the X-Men film series, as well as the television series House. The name is an homage to Steven Spielberg and comes from a line uttered by Roy Scheider in the 1975 feature Jaws: an elderly swimmer in a bathing cap teases police chief Martin Brody about not going in the water; Brody replies, “That’s some bad hat, Harry.” The original 2004 logo paid animated homage to this scene. The current logo, introduced in 2011, is taken from the police lineup scene of The Usual Suspects.

“Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade” Stamp scene mentioned by Ashley

Website for Joe Hill

Jaws Part 1: “The Shark Isn’t Working!”


Widely known today as the first summer blockbuster and the movie that sparked shark-phobia in the hearts of many, back in the summer of 1974, 26-year-old “Jaws” director Steven Spielberg lived in constant fear of being fired, his dreams for the film crushed. 

Part 1 of this two-part episode focuses on the filming and casting challenges behind the movie “Jaws.” From the 3 malfunctioning mechanical sharks –collectively called Bruce, after Spielberg’s lawyer– to the tensions between Robert Shaw and Richard Dreyfuss, to the sinking of the Orca boat, Candy and Ashley explore the challenges that caused a scheduled 55-day shoot to extend to 159 days and led some in the crew to start calling the production “Flaws.” 

Show Notes for Episode 39!

Photo credits top to Bottom: Businessinsider.com, Screenwriter Carl Gottlieb with The Jaws Log Silive.com, Rogerebert.com, aarp.com, imdb.com










‘Jaws’-Themed Musical ‘Bruce’ Targets Seattle For 2022 Opening – Deadline

“Inside Jaws” podcast, hosted by Mark Ramsey


Selena: The White Rose


CW: Adult themes/descriptions of violence

On March 31, 1995, the woman who founded the Selena Fan Club and often referred to the singer as her best friend, murdered Selena in a Days Inn in Corpus Christi, Texas. 

This year marks the 27th anniversary of Selena’s death, the year she would have turned 50, and 25 years since the release of the biopic Selena that in 2021 was recognized by the Library of Congress as being historically and culturally important. 

Join us for this fascinating listener request episode focused on the life of Selena Quintanilla, and the terrible act that stole her future just when Selena was poised to achieve superstardom status. As an added bonus, you’ll also hear insights from a handful of special guest contributors. 

Show Notes for Episode 38!


“Selena Quintanilla-Pérez’s Family Remembers Her ‘Life and Legacy’ 26 Years After Late Star’s Death,” People, by Darlene Aderoju, March 31, 2021

“Selena Quintanilla: Her Life in Photos,” US Weekly, by Mariah Cooper, March 31, 2022

“The True Story of Selena Quintanilla’s Death,” Oprah Daily, by Stephanie Castillo, January 4, 2021

“Singer Selena’s sudden death came 27 years ago, but her memory lives on – and new music may be coming,” USA Today, by Maria Jimenez Moya, March 31, 2022

“Former KGBT Anchor, Friend of Selena, Remembers Covering Scene of Her Death, Local 23 News, by Nathaniel Puente, April 3, 2022

“‘Selena’ rereleased nationwide for film’s 25th anniversary,” New York Daily News, by Joseph Wilkinson, April 7, 2022

Biography: Selena Quintanilla, November 8, 2017 

“Selena’s Family Band Los Dinos Was Her Start to Stardom,” Newsweek Special Edition, May 11, 2018

“Why Did Yolanda Saldívar Kill Selena Quintanilla, And Where Is She Now?” Women’s Health, by Jennifer Nied, April 30, 2021 

“The Tragic True Story of Selena Quintanilla’s Death,” Marie Claire,by Andrea Park, December 4, 2020

“The Heartbreaking True Story of Selena Quintanilla’s Death,” Esquire, by Adrienne Westenfeld, December 5, 2020 

“There’s More to Selena Quintanilla and Chris Perez’s Love Story than What You See on the Screen,” Harper’ Bazaar, by Lauren Puckett-Pope, May 4, 2021

“Yolanda Saldívar Was Once Selena’s Biggest Fan. Now She’s Serving Life in Prison,” Esquire, by Justin Kirkland,  December 11, 2020

“Inside Selena Quintanilla’s Tragically Brief Life and Enduring Legacy,” E News, by Billy Nilles, October 18, 2019

“Selena Quintanilla’s Husband Chris Perez Reveals What Ran Through His Head When He First Met the Singer,” Good Housekeeping, by Selena Barrientos, May 3, 2021 

“Remembering Selena 27 Years After Her Death,” NBC Chicago, by Corin Cesaric, March 31, 2022

“Listen to 911 calls made after Selena was shot in Corpus Christi, Texas,” ABC7 Chicago, March 31, 2021 

“‘Selena’ Only Shows a Sliver of Selena Quintanilla and Chris Perez’s Relationship,” Oprah Daily, by Elena Nicolaou, May 6, 2021 

“Selena’s murderer, Yolanda Saldivar, is eligible for parole in 2025,” CBS4 Local News, July 8, 2021

“A new Selena album will be released in April, 27 years after her death,” NPR, by Jonathan Franklin, March 15, 2022

Podcast: Selena: A Star Dies in Texas, hosted by Rudy Trevino


Selena Trailer

Selena’s Last Concert (Segment)

Music Video (English) released after Selena’s death

May I Help You Improve Your Home?


If you’re like most Americans, you’ve not only completed a home improvement project since the start of the pandemic, but you’ve also received some inspiration from shows like Fixer Upper or Flip or Flop

While HGTV is now a huge television network, with the stars of its most popular home improvement shows launched to celebrity status, HGTV didn’t even exist until December of 1994. 

So how did HGTV start? What show predated HGTV and is widely considered to be the very first home improvement show? More importantly, what’s the real story behind those home makeover shows? Candy and Ashley discuss these questions and more as they explore the topic “May I Help You Improve Your Home?”

Show Notes for Episode 37!


“The Rare Home-Improvement Show That Spotlights Skilled Workers,” The Atlantic, by Margaret Tucker, May 20, 2019

“An Inside Look at How HGTV Became an Industry Juggernaut,” Architectural Digest, by Dante Ciampaglia, July 29, 2019

“The Real Reason ‘Extreme Home Makeover Home Edition’ Ended,” House Digest, by Lucy Clark, January 7, 2022

“Chip and Joanna Gaines’ Magnolia Network pulls show after homeowners complain of ‘nightmare’ renovations, NBC News, by Saba Hamedy, January 12, 2022

“This new HGTV show will give LaGrange, Kentucky, a small town makeover, Louisville Courier Journal, by Kirby Adams, November 18, 2021

“Home Improvement Interrupted: Labor and Material Shortages Stall Home Renovations in Pandemic Era,” Forbes Advisor, by Lexie Pelchen and Samantha Allen, March 24, 2022

“Why Home Improvement Has Surged And How It’s Changing America,” NPR, by Frank Morris, September 11, 2020

“Ben and Erin Napier Share Sneak Peek of New Series Home Town Kickstart: ‘Y’all This Is So Big,’” People, by Giovana Gelhoren, April 22, 2022 

“’Be Kind’: Tween Kentucky Sisters Hope Campaign Will Spark A Wave Of Kindness,” NPR, by Cheri Lawson, December 2, 2020

“Sisters ‘Be Kind’ Campaign Inspires Kindness Capital of Kentucky,” My105.3WJLT, November 5, 2020


The YouTube channel Ashley struggled to remember the name of within the episode!

1984 episode of “This Old House”

Was “Home Improvement” based on “This Old House?” – Yes!

Screenshot taken from article:

May I Help You Solve a Crime?


CW: Adult themes/descriptions of violence

Fascinated with true crime? You’re not alone. 

The number of true crime podcasts and novels has skyrocketed in the past decade… and with it has come the rise of the ‘armchair detective’ and ‘online sleuth.’ The popular podcast “The Murder Squad” is centered around this very premise. 

But how exactly can the average citizen help to solve a crime?

That’s the focus of this episode, where Candy and Ashley touch on everything from DNA submission to the break that led to finding Gabby Petito’s remains, to Chris Lambert’s podcast “Your Own Backyard.” 

Join us for this fascinating episode, and in the words of Billy Jensen and Paul Holes, “Keep digging!”

Show Notes for Episode 36!

Top row: Patton’s tribute to wife Michelle McNamara after case breaks, Dailymail.co.uk; Gabby Petito Memorial, Fox 13 News; Bottom row: Murder Squad website; Billboard for missing student Kristin Smart, Rolling Stone


“The Murder Squad” Podcast website

“How an Unlikely Family History Website Transformed Cold Case Investigations,” The New York Times, by Heather Murphy, October 15, 2018 

“New owner of consumer DNA database GEDmatch vows to fight police search warrants, NBC News, by Jon Schuppe, December 10, 2019

“The ‘Golden State Killer’: Inside the timeline of crimes,” ABC News, by Emily Shapiro, October 30, 2020 

“’A national disgrace’: Holes in DNA databases leave crimes unsolved for decades,” NBC News, by Jon Schuppe, August 16, 2020

“How Your DNA could send a relative to jail,” The New York Times, by Rafi Kroll-Zaidi, Updated January 3, 2022

‘Happy Days’ Actor Ron Howard Has Interesting Connection to Viral Netflix Series ‘Cecil Hotel,” Outsider, by Suzanne Halliburton, March 11, 2021

Netflix’s ‘Vanishing at the Cecil Hotel’ true-crime docuseries: Why you won’t want to check out,” USA Today, by Erin Jensen, February 10, 2021

The Girls of Murder City, by Douglas Perry, p.202 

The rise of ‘citizen sleuths’: the true crime buffs trying to solve cases, The Guardian, by Amelia Tait, October 2, 2021

The Leopold and Loeb Trial, American Experience, PBS

“‘The Murder Squad’ Is a True-Crime Podcast That Wants You to Solve The Crimes,” Vulture, by Devon Sherer, March 13, 2019

Gabby Petito family’s lawsuit against Brian Laundrie’s parents will head to jury trial in 2023, courts say, Fox 13, April 13, 2022

Gabby Petito case leads to rise of armchair detectives, Washington Examiner, by Barnini Chakraborty, September 24, 2021

“When was Brian Laundrie reported missing?” News Channel 8, by Mahsa Saeidi and Heather Monahan, October 23, 2021

“Gabby Petito case: A timeline of her disappearance and homicide,” CBS News, by Tamara Weitzman and Chelsea Narvaez, Updated October 21, 2021 

“How the Case of Gabrielle Petito Galvanized the Internet,” The New York Times, by Katherine Rosman, Updated October 20, 2021

“Updated Kristin Smart billboard now visible in Arroyo Grande,” KSBY, by Kathrene Herndon, Updated April 15, 2021

“Kristin Smart case: Podcaster helped California cops solve cold case killing,” KCRA3, by Brian Melley, April 16, 2021

“’Your Own Backyard’ podcast on Kristin Smart case adds two new episodes following arrests,” ABC10, by Samantha Solomon, Updated July 6, 2021


The “Stranger Things” trailer breakdown that Ashley references inside the episode

Cecil Hotel Elevator footage (No Sound)

May I Help You Fall Asleep?


An estimated 20% of people experience autonomous sensory meridian response (ASMR), yet it’s a condition that did not even have a name until 2010. 

Since 2010, however, ASMR has surged in popularity, leading to the creation of millions of ASMR videos on youtube designed to help people calm their anxiety and/or fall asleep.

In this special episode, Ashley and Candy are excited to interview ASMR artist Hannah, host of the popular youtube channel Chili B ASMR. Listen in as the three discuss this intriguing topic, including Hannah’s insights and experiences as an ASMR artist and some behind-the-scenes stories about her work. 

You won’t be able to sleep through this fascinating interview … but you can always check out one of Hannah’s videos later for that! 

Chili B ASMR: https://www.youtube.com/c/ChilibASMR

Show Notes for Episode 35!

Photos courtesy of Chili B ASMR


Interview with Hannah from Chili B ASMR
Chili B Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chilibasmr/

Zoe Kravitz advertisement

“How A.S.M.R. Became a Sensation,” New York Times, by Jamie Lauren Keiles, April 4, 2019

“Padma Lakshmi Marks End of Pomegranate Season with Her ‘Most Favorite Snack’ in ASMR Video,” People, by Stephanie Wenger, March 18, 2022

“Are you a tinglehead? The weird world of ASMR,” CNN, by Sandee LaMotte, February 3, 2022

“Open wide! YouTube star makes millions from chewing her food,” News 24, by Siya Ndlela, March 8, 2022


ASMR Channels Hannah mentions during the interview:


ASMR event Ashley mentions during the interview:


Hannah’s take on the ‘famous’ Pat LaFontaine Cranial Nerve Examination
And the original video!

May I Help You Help Yourself?


Mental health conditions and behavioral disorders are more prevalent now than ever, with the spending on mental health treatment and services estimated at over $225 billion annually (2019). And with this situation has come the rise of self-help reality shows. 

Today’s episode focuses on two such shows, A&E’s long-running series “Hoarders” and “My Cat from Hell” which ran on Animal Planet for 10 seasons. 

From the debate over the treatment methods used in shows like “Hoarders” and “The Biggest Loser” to the discussion of standout moments (the 911 cat, anyone?), this lively episode will not only entertain, but also leave you wondering about your own stance on self-help reality TV.   

Support the companies that support Scandal Water! 

Mid roll Ad: Kenzie @ TheWriteStage.com 

Show Notes for Episode 34!

Hoarders picture
Jackson Galaxy, host of My Cat From Hell, which ran on Animal Planet
Chicago Tribune 

Jackson working with a cat on the show


“Mental Health,” World Health Organization

“Expert teams needed to manage hoarding, which worsened during pandemic,” Sunday Times, by Claire Keeton, March 22, 2022

IMDB: Hoarders

“What is Hoarding Disorder?” American Psychiatric Association

“‘Hoarders’ Pro Organizer Dorothy Breininger on Digging Deeper for Season 13,” TV Insider, by Scott Fishman, October 18, 2021

“Hoarding Disorder: Symptoms and Causes,” Mayo Clinic 

“Jackson Galaxy wanted to be a rock star, and now he makes bad cats good on ‘My Cat From Hell’, which is as amazing as a headline about him with no cat puns,” Chicago Tribune, by Allison Stewart, January 16, 2020

“Cat whisperer Jackson Galaxy comes to Portland,” Portland Tribune, by Jason Vondersmith, November 28, 2018

“’My Cat From Hell’ and Jackson Galaxy Are Back to Help Freaked Out Felines Weather Quarantine,” People, by Kelli Bender, July 16, 2020

Bonus: Meet Ashley’s Cats

L to R: Rooney, Willow, Henry & Roxie
Bottom: Scotty

Lucy and Desi: Unconditional Love – Part 2


How can a podcast be titled “Lucy and Desi: Unconditional Love” when the couple spent more time with their subsequent spouses than with each other? That’s one of the many questions Candy and Ashley address in the second part of this special 2-part episode. And as before, they are honored to include an audio clip from the husband and wife comedy team of Carrie and Jeff Ketterman, who have their own Lucy and Desi tribute show. 

This concluding episode will delve into the rise and fall of both Desilu and the couple’s marriage, the relationships that followed, Lucy’s career post I Love Lucy, and the couple’s final interactions, including Desi’s last message to Lucy: “P.S. I Love Lucy was never just the title.”

Show Notes for Episode 33!

Please see show notes for Episode 32 for more photographs & videos!

Gary Morton & Lucille Ball (Getty Images)
Edith Mack Hirsch & Desi Arnaz (Celebswood.com)
Courtesy of Carrie & Jeff Ketterman
In the colorized version, you can see the tears in Lucy’s eyes as Ricky/Desi sings
Desi’s final message to Lucy was delivered by Robert Stack

Let’s Talk to Lucy Podcast


Sources: (Identical to Episode 32)

Audio clips from Carrie and Jeff Ketterman, 2022

Lucy and Desi, documentary directed by Amy Pohler, 2022

Archive of American Television: Lucie Arnaz on what her parents were like when she was growing up, August 19, 2016

“How Lucy and Desi Changed TV With Desilu Productions,” Biography, December 7, 2021

“Lucille Ball’s daughter says her mother ‘never thought of herself as a feminist’ and ‘hated every minute’ of running her production studio,” Insider, March 4, 2022

 “Review: Amy Poehler’s ‘Lucy and Desi’ is an absorbing look at their complex lives,” Los Angeles Times, by Gary Goldstein, March 3, 2022

“Lucille Ball’s 2nd Husband Gary Morton Claimed to Have Never Seen ‘I Love Lucy,’” Showbiz Cheatsheet, by Lou Haviland, November 7, 2021

“A Look Back at Lucy and Desi’s Turbulent Love Story,” Country Living, by Maria Carter, March 1, 2017

Wikipedia: The Long, Long Trailer

“‘Lucy and Desi’ Review: Amy Poehler’s Documentary Captures the Complex Love Story of Being Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz,” Variety, by Owen Gleiberman, January 28, 2022

“How Lucille Ball Said Goodbye to Desi Arnaz Days Before He Died: ‘They Loved Each Other Until the End,’” People, by Liz McNeil and Benjamin Van Hoose, February 23, 2022

“Lucille Ball’s legendary interview show comes to SiriusXM,” Spectrum News1, by David Mendez, August 4, 2021

“The Most Shocking Secret About ‘I Love Lucy’ Stars Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz’s Marriage,” Good Housekeeping, by Katherine Tinsley, December 26, 2021

“Lucy’s Radio Career,” Everything Lucille Ball (site), 2017

Wikipedia: Lucille Ball

“Gary Morton, 74, Producer for Lucille Ball,” The New York Times, by Reuters, April 1, 1999


Robert Osborne discusses Lucille Ball

Would you like a Pod of Tea?


Happy National British Tea Day!!!

To celebrate this April 21st holiday, Candy and Ashley sat down (via zoom) with Emma, host of the Pod of Tea podcast, along with her husband Jack, frequent podcast guest. 

What ensued was a lively conversation where two Americans compared notes with their new British friends on everything from tea flavors, word definition (what is exactly IS a biscuit??), and Jack’s astonishing connection to the “Jurassic Park” franchise. 

Settle in with your very own steamy cup of “Scandal Water” and join us as we celebrate all things tea! 

Show Notes for Episode 32!

Photos courtesy of Pod of Tea Podcast

Pod of Tea Podbean Site:


Jack’s site for JW: “The Dinosaur Protection Group”

The ride at Universal Ashley & Jack discuss

Emma’s Music