Lucy And Desi: Unconditional Love – Part 2

About this episode

How can a podcast be titled “Lucy and Desi: Unconditional Love” when the couple spent more time with their subsequent spouses than with each other? That’s one of the many questions Candy and Ashley address in the second part of this special 2-part episode. And as before, they are honored to include an audio clip from the husband and wife comedy team of Carrie and Jeff Ketterman, who have their own Lucy and Desi tribute show. 

This concluding episode will delve into the rise and fall of both Desilu and the couple’s marriage, the relationships that followed, Lucy’s career post I Love Lucy, and the couple’s final interactions, including Desi’s last message to Lucy: “P.S. I Love Lucy was never just the title.”

Show Notes for Episode 33!

Please see show notes for Episode 32 for more photographs & videos!

Gary Morton & Lucille Ball (Getty Images)
Edith Mack Hirsch & Desi Arnaz (
Courtesy of Carrie & Jeff Ketterman
In the colorized version, you can see the tears in Lucy’s eyes as Ricky/Desi sings
Desi’s final message to Lucy was delivered by Robert Stack

Let’s Talk to Lucy Podcast

Sources: (Identical to Episode 32)

Audio clips from Carrie and Jeff Ketterman, 2022

Lucy and Desi, documentary directed by Amy Pohler, 2022

Archive of American Television: Lucie Arnaz on what her parents were like when she was growing up, August 19, 2016

“How Lucy and Desi Changed TV With Desilu Productions,” Biography, December 7, 2021

“Lucille Ball’s daughter says her mother ‘never thought of herself as a feminist’ and ‘hated every minute’ of running her production studio,” Insider, March 4, 2022

 “Review: Amy Poehler’s ‘Lucy and Desi’ is an absorbing look at their complex lives,” Los Angeles Times, by Gary Goldstein, March 3, 2022

“Lucille Ball’s 2nd Husband Gary Morton Claimed to Have Never Seen ‘I Love Lucy,’” Showbiz Cheatsheet, by Lou Haviland, November 7, 2021

“A Look Back at Lucy and Desi’s Turbulent Love Story,” Country Living, by Maria Carter, March 1, 2017

Wikipedia: The Long, Long Trailer

“‘Lucy and Desi’ Review: Amy Poehler’s Documentary Captures the Complex Love Story of Being Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz,” Variety, by Owen Gleiberman, January 28, 2022

“How Lucille Ball Said Goodbye to Desi Arnaz Days Before He Died: ‘They Loved Each Other Until the End,’” People, by Liz McNeil and Benjamin Van Hoose, February 23, 2022

“Lucille Ball’s legendary interview show comes to SiriusXM,” Spectrum News1, by David Mendez, August 4, 2021

“The Most Shocking Secret About ‘I Love Lucy’ Stars Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz’s Marriage,” Good Housekeeping, by Katherine Tinsley, December 26, 2021

“Lucy’s Radio Career,” Everything Lucille Ball (site), 2017

Wikipedia: Lucille Ball

“Gary Morton, 74, Producer for Lucille Ball,” The New York Times, by Reuters, April 1, 1999


Robert Osborne discusses Lucille Ball

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